Consider this

The oldest surviving piece of literature in existence; The Epic of Gilgamesh

is SUPER gay

please share this with as many Gamers™ as you can before they talk about gay being forced into media

@mal I have to admit I've only read *about* it, never actually read it - but from what I understand, I don't think it's gay at all! Rather, Platonic male relationships were just experienced and talked about very differently back then.

And the Babylonians/Akkadians didn't have all the subsequent Abrahamic religions' Weird Sex Rules™, so they wouldn't have skirted around G and E's sexuality if they'd wanted to make them gay.

Happy to be corrected, if wrong!

@ej

before gil meets enkidu there's a metaphor gil has that is meant to foreshadow his meeting and befriending enkidu, in which he finds an axe which he picks up and would keep by his side and would "love it as he did a woman"

plus in general there wasn't really language that existed to describe being gay at the time

@mal I'm really not a scholar or anything - just a bloke who spends too much time in the British Museum - but I've read that the "love E as he would a woman" bit is kinda famous for being an example of how Fertile Crescent folk used to talk about Platonic male relationships, and how male bonding worked back then?

And there was lots of awesome explicit pre-Christian (and *definitely* pre-gamer!) gay literature, so I'm pretty confident they did have ways to talk about it..

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@mal (By the way I'd normally be really keen to research my references, but I'm afraid I'm mega-busy this morning and don't really have time to look stuff up. Again, if I'm wrong or I'm missing something I'd love to be corrected!)

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