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So with @matrix and @element explicitly supporting cops and fascist governments what does that mean for their and our anarcho future?

The Matrix.org Foundation

@liaizon @element whatever you do, don’t look at where the Internet or Tor came from… 🤫

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@matrix @liaizon @element Err.. what? So like.. what's your attitude going to be when you get served with secret orders to create backdoors in Matrix? Or has that already happened, thus the apparently-already-established alignment with that side of the fence?

Element

@amatecha @matrix @liaizon element.io/blog/the-online-saf gives an idea of our position. And no, there are no backdoors. Yes, we fund Matrix dev by selling encrypted messaging to governments, which includes police: if you don’t like that then please feel free to use a different app.

Element BlogThe Online Safety Bill: An attack on encryptionThe Online Safety Bill has some genuinely good intentions, but the proposed legislation is remarkably poor.
efelbar

@element @amatecha @matrix @liaizon how... is that ever a position you find yourself defending? It's not like there are no other options for funding; I'm sure the community would rather pay for development costs than potentially have their messages sold to governments and police?

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Milan

@flbr i think they wrote about the messaging service they sell/host, not messages of users @element @amatecha @matrix @liaizon

Fish Id Wardrobe

@milan @flbr @element @amatecha @matrix @liaizon They certainly did. But unless you are an encryption expert, we have to take the security of their product on trust. And being funded by governments means I, personally, don't trust them. I don't think that's unreasonable, and I think a lot of folks here feel the same.

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