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@CatherineFlick this is also so wildly out of whack with other data that I have seen, and so directly tied to a CCP policy initiative that I have trouble seeing this as anything but propaganda being at *best* unwittingly science-washed by US researchers

@CatherineFlick really, really hope there is an investigation here

@glyph I’m speaking with some US colleagues before I write a letter.

@CatherineFlick Thank you for doing that.

To circle back just a bit since I think I didn't express it particularly well earlier: the issue that I have with the results *is* also an ethics issue. These results will be used to drive policy discussions. If they are science-washing non-functional interventions—whether credulously or deliberately—that is potentially a tremendous harm to far more people than were initially harmed by having their data stolen by the researchers.

@glyph Yeah, this is true. Anyway, let's see what the investigations produce (one of my letters has been responded to with a promise of one)

@glyph yes especially since we found that there wasn’t much change after the mandate came in 😅 I’m more worried about the egregious lack of ethics than the results though

@CatherineFlick por que no los dos ;). But yes the ethical issues are also absolutely shocking