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Leigh Dodds

Section 4 of the UK Public Charge Point regulations defines a requirement to publish "open public chargepoint data".

Except it doesn't specify that the data must use an open licence, just that it's available without the need to agree to terms and conditions.

legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2023/

A CC-NC-ND licence meets that, which isn't open. As does "available for personal use only".

A misunderstanding in the drafting? How does that happen?

www.legislation.gov.ukThe Public Charge Point Regulations 2023These Regulations are made using powers in the Automated and Electric Vehicles Act 2018 (c. 18). They impose certain requirements on charge point operators that operate public charge points.
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Leigh Dodds

I also have mixed feelings about specific versions of a standard being baked into legislation.

Being clear on conformity is good, but limiting ability to evolve a standard seems wrong.

Why not "Version X.Y.Z or newer"?

#standards#legislation
Callimachus :emacs:

@ldodds I hope you are asking that ironically because the standard is full of disconnects with actual implementation. Embedded software isn't a thing and everything is a mobile phone app, or at least you would think based on the regulation..

Leigh Dodds

@callimachus are you referring to the standard referenced in the legislation? If so, I'm not familiar with it or current practice in the area. Is there a useful critique of the problems somewhere?

My questions were more general about the data licensing and merits of closely tieing legislation to standards.

Terence Eden

@ldodds
Because I stopped being Head of Open Standards and they never bothered replacing me? 🤪

More seriously, there's a pathological aversion to specifying things like that. Same as the version number.

Partly it is "the British way" to let things be situational rather than prescriptive.

And, practically, what if V2 of the standard does a GPL3? Or insists on something unpalatable?

I don't think it is a perfect solution. But seems good enough for practical purposes.

Leigh Dodds

@Edent the drafting isn't consistent with other legislation, e.g. Public Service Vehicles, spells out licensing requirements that equate to open, and has a more general reference to standards.

See notes on Regs 4, 6, 16

legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/7

Will write up some notes, as I find this interesting.

www.legislation.gov.ukThe Public Service Vehicles (Open Data) (England) Regulations 2020These Regulations make provision to allow for the development of bus information applications or “Apps” for use on, for example, mobile telephones and other mobile devices in order to help passengers make informed decisions about their journeys. This is achieved by requiring bus operators (“operators”) and certain local authorities, in England outside Greater London to make their bus data available to the Secretary of State who will in turn publish it on an internet website.
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